David Medlock It's probably a lot more of like test runs. We know they start on a dish. I've read to test dishes let it grow in the dark a couple days and if upon light introduction it either turns orange or not. I could absolutely have gotten that wrong too, I've not yet seen a dish- not turn yellow. Haven't put it on Agar much. There's a Vietnamese woman on usa cordys and she told me to preserve them "put it on jelly" (a cutting from a fruit) I took it as a slant. Cross breading is not my jam so I know Zero. Maybe a slant-test it on plates to LC/grow out small and if it's good go back to the slant. I would imagine it could survive. I have LC jars that still expanded themselves in the fridge but lasted viable since like the past autumn I think. My master syringes definitely last a few months. Sounds like cap n stem is doing some advanced/new stuff. The OM dude said Oats produced the highest quality cordys. I'm experimenting with like all kinds of shit ATM mostly nutrients and different grains. 

So Gregor, have you guys been dropping agar into grain bags?  I saw a picture of the capnstem cordyceps bag an it looked like little yellow bits. If so..... incredibly interesting 

Go to USA cordyceps or cordyceps cultivation group on Facebook page many will help. Jeff actually made a post about how he feels there's no one keeping information/we're wicked against "gate keeping" or whatever and in the post he left a lot of info. We will help you there For Sure. 

When I get a syringe I put 2 ml into multiple 250 ml jars. Those 250 jars can expand more lager LC jars. My thoughts are that if 10-20ml 2nd expansion into 600ml jars is good, which it is, then probably like 60ml would expand a 1 gal LC jar. 

With LC -from the beginning -time, light and temperature will determine if you get good full uniform grows.

I have just successfully taken a 250ml round of albinos out and they are close to half a year at 40° ish. So like that's a lot as is (250ml) and can go further still.

I've done Jeff's egg substrate next to Ryan Paul Gates substrate recipe and the yield was almost the same but the eggs made really fat cordys. I put eggs in everything except bags because its messy. ☮️

Oh man I saw those online. A bit too much $ for me but I bet they are perfect 

That I have not tried but I have a big ass bag of soy pellets. I recently saw a YouTube dude who actually grew them on a Steak....(wtf?!)

I've got some Sorghum jars going for a side by side VS rice but it's going to be about 20 days b4 I see significant growth. I feel like they just won't be able to absorb properly although they are eating it right now, slower though. As long as the cats bald in the end I'd say it's a good method. My own thoughts are that they can handle and prefer a very wet substrate so I add less hydration to the substrate so that I can add more LC which is nutritious AF. LME/Yeast/dextrose/calcium carbonate/kelp powder/gypsum make absolutely perfect Uniform growth.  LME/Yeast +whole eggs make an equal harvest but tend to be wicked Fatties and IMO better because they get bigger than my fingers. 

I'm going to try to hook up with NHmushrooms this year to sell cordyceps but waiting for another response. Either way this year is the year I'll try markets & coffee shops.🤘

Dude ....the Nebro's spanked me as well. 

I've held off my 2nd try at them until about now for the cold weather. Plan B is now on grain again and I will be trying them in half gallon jars for substrate so I can scrap the top off easier and case them. It's also easier to keep glass colder than a bag. The first time went all the way to a 10lb & 5 lb block. Both got frozen and cased but it was wicked hot outside and I couldn't get my place lower than about 65-70°. 

Got some information about these and from what I was told it sounded like you need to up the PH in the substrate (lime or calcium carbonate) as well as making them freeze upon colonization then Casing layer to initiate fruits could help. They seem to grow during cold months naturally 

They appear to be grown elsewhere in bottles but let's not let the Nebro's continue to win. I've been labeling my Nebro cultures "Fahkn Nebros" because they have been the only one I've not been able to grow successfully or at least fruit.